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51jijin 发表于 2011-7-2 17:23

[转载] 结构方程模型:罄竹难书

按:这一系列文章说了我想说没说,没说又想说的话(尽管我并不同意其中的某些观点),转载过来,供大家参考。<br /> <br /> <br /> 积怨已久,才用了如此狠毒的标题。机缘巧合,遇上了这样一种建模方法,经过不才以前的一番研究,以及之后的一番思考,至今坚定地认为,这是统计里面少有的自欺欺人的无聊模型。今日一位UNM的同仁写邮件问起我SEM的事情,我实在刹不住笔,将此模型大批臭批了一通。要不是时间紧迫还有其它事情要做,我还得继续砍竹子写下其“罪行”。以下是我的回信:<br /> <blockquote>Hi,<br /> The most obvious disadvantage, I believe, just lies in the critical modeling technique it adopted at the beginning: constructing models to fit the sample COVARIANCE instead of the sample values themselves. I insist that such an idea has almost destroyed our valuable data. You know, the covariance is just one of the TOO MANY characteristics of the data, therefore if we only focus on this simple information (covariance), other information will be dropped (e.g. mean, kurtosis, skewness, …). And a very natural question is, what does the covariance stand for? Can it represent all of the original information? The answer is certainly NO!<br /> The second disadvantage in my eyes is the complexity of this model. In statistics, rarely have I ever met models more complex than SEMs. Even the simplest SEMs will include tens of parameters, as there are several parameter matrices in a SEM. The direct consequence it brings is the computational complexity. You can easily calculate the minimum of f(x)=x^2+1, but do you know how to calculate the minimum of f(a,b,c,d,e,f,g,…)=a*b^4/(2*c+d^14*a)-f/g*c^d+…? Actually the target function for SEM to optimize is much more complex than this one! It involves with the multiplication, inverse and determinant of huge matrices… Just tell me, can you trust the software to correctly find the GLOBAL optimum for such a complex function? Personally I cannot, as I know there are too many “stories” behind this problem. It’s very likely that your software only tells you a LOCAL optimum WITHOUT warnings.<br /> The third reason comes from a philosophy: you may regard SEM simply as a process of hypothesis testing. I think you surely know the null hypothesis. In the end, you can ONLY REJECT your model but you can NEVER accept it (or say, ah, my model is correct!). In other words, you can never find the truth, although there are many measures (Chi-square, GFI, …) to tell you how “good” you models are. The basic philosophy of hypothesis testing in statistics is that null hypothesis can only be rejected (because in most cases you can only know the risk of rejecting; you cannot know the risk of accepting it). If we are unable to accept a SEM, why bother to construct it? (If you declare this SEM is correct, other people can naturally doubt whether there are other alternative models.)<br /> I spent about only half a year on SEM, so my words might be incorrect. My advice is never believe anyone (including me) unless you really understand it, especially the mathematical and statistical theories! I really hate those textbooks avoiding maths, because to some degree, they are just cheating the readers by hiding the most important part of a technique.<br /> There are still a couple of reasons but I don’t have enough time to list all of them out here.<br /> You may judge from my above words that I have been fighting against this model for quite a long time. Once a statistician said, “All models are wrong, but some models are useful”, and I’d like to say that SEM is surely not among these “some models”. I’d be very glad to hear from you about the “successful” applications of SEM if you have any cases in this aspect. I’ve inquired such cases of many people who wrote me emails asking about the SEM but I have not got any till today, which ensured me even more of my impression that SEM is a useless technique.<br /> Regards,<br /> Yihui<br /> </blockquote>

结构方程 发表于 2011-7-2 17:28

收藏,谢谢!!!

dataanlysis 发表于 2011-7-2 17:33

呵呵,结构方程模型既有它的缺陷也有它的优点,它的理论基础是有的,我们不能彻底否定它

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